Questions and Answers 6/6

…that you can live a life on a material plane and do well with it, and you can live life on a mental plane and do well with it, but the only time that you will find your life eternal is when you lose your physical sense of life, and your mental sense of life—stop trying to tell God how to run Its universe, and resign back into that inner Infinite Invisible.

When then we come to that place of spiritual illumination where that inner Self, called capital “S,” capital S-e-l-f, where that Self takes over—it’s the point that Paul came to when he said, “I live, yet not I. Christ liveth in me. It’s Christ then that determines where I shall go on a missionary trip, and when. It’s Christ that determines what experiences shall come to me.

And so on that you just can know this: that you can live a life on a material plane and do well with it, and you can live life on a mental plane and do well with it, but the only time that you will find your life eternal is when you lose your physical sense of life, and your mental sense of life—stop trying to tell God how to run Its universe, and resign back into that inner Infinite Invisible.

And of course, that mode of life isn’t for everybody. As a matter of fact, it’s only for a few people. That is the reason for the Master’s statement that few there be that find it. The work—there’s a lot of it, but the laborers are few. You see? Why? Because a spiritual nature is a development. It is a development or evolution up from the material, through the mental into the spiritual, and some people find their spiritual level from birth—they bring it right here with them. Other people come into the world grossly materialistic, and evolve up into something mental, and ultimately something spiritual.

And of course, the vast majority of people never touch the spiritual on this plane of existence. They live their complete lives physical beings in which all of their good is physical—their sensations are physical, their wealth is physical, everything about them is physical, their homes are physically magnificent, when they get that far, so forth.

Then there are the people who develop mentally and they have mental arts and mental culture and mental intellectual greatness, so forth and so on, and then they go through that to the spiritual. Now, as they get through to the spiritual they come back on this intellectual and material and find that both the mental, the intellectual, and the physical are really spiritual, and then they have the same forms of expression, the same music, the same art, the same literature, and the same physical bodies, and the same physical pleasures, but on a different level of consciousness.

Now they’re so spiritual that there’s nothing mean about them, nothing ugly about them, nothing nasty about them, nothing cheap about them—do you see what I mean? Nothing immoral about them, nothing vulgar about them, whether it’s physical or mental, but that’s only after you’ve attained the spiritual, then you’ll find that you bring the mental and the physical into line with it. And so it is that the very thing that on a physical level of life may be called evil or not nice or vulgar, the moment you’ve come into your spiritual realization you’ll find it takes on a different complexion. You see? So it is.

(Editor’s note; There is a question from the audience and Joel responds as follows.)

Oh yes, there are those—there are those of pure spiritual development right from the beginning. The only question is whether they haven’t come through the physical and mental in previous experience. It is possible that evolution has begun with the physical, and come up through the mental to the spiritual, but not necessarily on this plane. That is the explanation…We had that question come up in Portland last week about some children who pass on as children, who leave this plane of existence as children although they were beautiful and spiritual and so forth, and what the explanation or reason is. Well, you see, they have worked out their physical and mental before ever coming here and on this plane they fulfill their spiritual mission and go on to their higher accomplishments once that is done.

You see, on them the second death hath no power. On whom? On those who have overcome the physical and mental sense of existence and have come into conscious realization of their oneness with God, of their spiritual life. Once a person has attained a measure of their spiritual life they can never die, but neither does that mean that they’ll stay here on earth going through all of this wheel of human experience. They may leave, at any moment—our sight, but only in an evolutionary way—not in the way of dying. So it is that, yes, it is possible that evolution comes from the physical to the mental to the spiritual, but it is not necessary that it be encompassed on this plane.

You may have come to this plane and have worked out your physical and may now be here on your mental, or you may have touched the mental and be prepared for the spiritual, or you may have come to this plane with a spiritual mission, and you have no need of a physical or mental expression. When your mission is accomplished you go right on and drop your physical or mental sense of existence.

Next we take up the questions relating to supply, tithing, and giving. Aloha, Joel.

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